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Interviewer: I think that sometimes people do not believe strongly
enough in the services that they provide so they shortchange those
services. You will hear people saying, "Well, should the person
earn minimum wage? Or should I negotiate for less than minimum wage?"
Please speak to the value of the individuals that you are representing
to the business and what types of wages you tend to advocate for the
people with disabilities.
John Luna: First of all, the wage is whatever the local [commensurate]
wage would be for that respective job. [The same wage that anyone
without a disability would make.] We are not asking for a handout.
We are not asking to start someone at minimum wage [if the position
pays more]. If the job starts at seven dollars an hour than that is
[what we ask for]. We are bringing an individual who can and will
do the job to the satisfaction of the employer. The employer does
not have a problem paying someone who can do the job. It is one of
those things that you have really got to look at. Here is what I have.
I have a good, reliable, dependable employee [who makes the same as
any employee of your company]. Because the employer wants a reliable,
dependable employee and someone who will show up at work each and
every day and not be thinking about what they are going to be doing
on the weekend or vacation, someone who can do the job.
What we are doing is providing that quality employee. We have found
is that, many times, there are more opportunities for employment because
some people [do not] want to work for their money. Everyone would
like to receive a check, but you have to work for it. We are providing
good employees, and because of the reputation and the trust factor
that we have brought to the employer, it just spreads with that.
Interviewer: That really speaks to a point you made a few minutes
ago, which really is making sure that your agency is functioning from
a business perspective versus a human service perspective. You are
bringing value to the company. You are a business; you are not a human
service agency just trying to get somebody a job in the community,
because it is a good thing to do.
John Luna: Right. Many times employers will state that they give
ten to twenty thousand dollars to the United Way. They have done their
social community part. But still they are looking for employees and
that is the key that we are bringing to them, is employees.
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