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Interviewer: Those are really key points. You have made a lot of
important points today. Let me ask you this as well. I know that one
issue would be helping new employment specialists develop the skills
that you are talking about. How does your agency go about doing that
John?
John Luna: First of all, it is all part of the hiring process. We
provide the interviewing; we are looking for someone who can market,
and someone who can sell. Sometimes, during our interview process,
we try to stretch the potential employment specialist to see whether
they can really sell, and whether they can close. In fact, one of
the questions that we ask them to do is that we have some props. That
we will just ask them to sell us something. Whether it would be a
clock or a pen, they would have to sell. We, in turn, tend to stretch
to see how much, you know, how much could they sell us, could we get
a discount? During the interview process, they have to think quickly
on their feet about how to sell and market to us, at the same time
trying to look good during the interview.
Interviewer: That is a great plan. It is not really selling a person
with a disability, per se, but just a product, any product.
John Luna: Exactly.
Interviewer: That is a great idea.
John Luna: Then when they come through, we train them and they will
shadow someone who has been in for a few years as an employment specialist.
They will go with them for a week to see how to sell, the sale and
marketing, and how we do that. Many times we, myself and the managers,
will ask them to come into the office and then continually pressing
and educating and making them aware of salesmanship tips.
Sometimes I will get from the Chamber, information or we will have
someone from the Chamber who is a salesperson, maybe in the department
of pharmaceuticals or whatever, to work with our individuals on some
tips on how to continue and how to get better in selling and marketing.
So again, it is from the business standpoint. Every community has
folks who would love to assist people to get better. You have to utilize
your respective community leaders. Because they want to help others,
and everyone wants to share their skills, someone who is really good
in the business community, who is a marketing and selling expert.
We have some folks who we know that are insurance salesmen who know
the salesman skills that can help market us. They can do a great job
of doing that. Many times we get free expert training, because sometimes
the salesmen have gone to really high dollar specialized classes on
how to sell, and they share their information to us free.
Interviewer: Is that done more on an informal basis or have you had
people come and actually speak to your employment specialists?
John Luna: Well both, it is informal, because we built the relationships
and built the trust. They in turn will come in and take thirty, forty-five
minutes to talk to our employment consultants.
Interviewer: Again, back to that key word "networking"
isn't it?
John Luna: Yes. And that is the key. Whether it would be Chamber,
church, social, family; the networking is the key. It takes work.
It is not easy. It is over and beyond what we are supposed to do,
but you have to do it in order to provide a good community rehab program.
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