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Self Employment
An Interview with Nancy Brooks-Lane

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Question: Did you and your staff experience anxiety or concern about doing this?

  • Initially, staff were pessimistic and resistant, staff meetings were stressful and tense
  • Broke the process down into achievable tangible outcomes, offered support and held staff accountable
  • Over time the process became fun

Question: How can Social Security Benefits and Ticket to Work be used?

  • PASS (Plan for Achieving Self Support) and IRWE (Impairment Related Work Experience) can maximize person’s resources
  • Limited experience to date with the Ticket to Work

Transcript

Interviewer: It seems the change was occurring not only for the people that you were serving, but also for your staff. Initially, did you and your staff experience some feelings of anxiety and concern about whether or not you had the capacity to do this sort of thing? If so, was that difficult to overcome? How have you found the confidence of your staff now?

Nancy: There has been a 180 degree turn-around. Initially, the staff were very resistant and very pessimistic. Some of the weekly staff meetings were very stressful and very tense. What had to happen was taking this overwhelming concept and breaking it down into, "Ok, what can we make happen between now and next week?" It was breaking it down into very small stages that resulted in tangible outcomes that were achievable; and then balancing that with a lot of support, encouragement, and flexibility.

It was key to hold people accountable. There had to be some bit of firmness in the process that this was serious. We were trying to change people's lives. You could not take this seriously. As people started getting outcomes based on those very small steps that we would define, week-for-week; it became something that they took pride in and felt that they had achieved. Then, it became fun. It was a much more enjoyable process than just the standard supported employment [like working] at a typical fast food or grocery store. People saw this was a valued role for the individual and actually a career path, because it was based on their passion and what they wanted to do in life.

Interviewer: Excellent. Thank you so much, I appreciate that. How can Social Security benefits, such as Plans for Achieving Self-Sufficiency and the Ticket-to-Work Voucher system be used?

Nancy: The PASS Plan is really a tool that can maximize resources for the folks we support. It's critical when you look at the folks that we're trying to support who are often living under the poverty level and have few resources because their benefits don't allow that. Through the PASS Plan and even the IRWE, you can maximize those resources, enabling the individual to expand his/her options through his/her business. The Ticket-to-Work really hasn't been something that we've had a lot of experience with in Georgia. I know there are some kinks that are still being worked out with that.



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