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Interviewer: The focus on competitive employment
involves a component of integration, getting people out in their communities
working with other community members. What's your response to someone
who states, "Self employment only serves to segregate and isolate
people with disabilities in their homes?"
Nancy: I would say, first of all, any good
thing can be done badly. My experience is that self-employment is
really the opposite of isolation, because you have very many valued
roles. You have a relationship with a supplier. You have a relationship
with your customers. You have networking that you do with other businesses.
It actually presents the individual in a role of competence and a
valued role that is different from opportunities they would have in
other settings.
Interviewer: In many of the examples that
you shared with us are out in the community. People aren't sitting
at home in terms of self employment. I think sometimes when you hear
self-employment we might box people in as telemarketers or something
within their homes. That's not necessarily true, is it?
Nancy: No. There's in-home self employment
and then there's self employment where you are actually a viable part
of the economic community within which you live.
Interviewer: Based on your experience,
if you were talking to a staff person who's never been involved in
self employment and their agency or organization was moving towards
offering self employment services, what one-liner, or what one thought
or couple of thoughts, would you share with them? [That is] not so
much as advice, but as wise words to get them going.
Nancy: I guess it would be no different
then any sort of systems change to a community-based focus. That is
make sure that you have buy-in from the key folks, the CEO and the
Board. If you don't, it's not going to succeed. That is one thing
I've seen over and over again. If you're going to start something
such as self employment, you need to make that it's going to be supported
by the leadership in the system within where you work.
Interviewer: Thank you so much Nancy for
letting us visit your program and what you do. It sounds like a very
exciting program. I really appreciate the time you took to be here
with us today.
Nancy: You're very welcome. I've enjoyed
it.
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